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Just an fyi for everyone. If your in need of a part for Mitchell reels, I have a lot of NOS parts for them
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It would be helpful if you could provide the model list of reels and types (spinning, baitcasters,etc.) for which you have parts.
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Spinning reels A fair amount of 300 parts and some of the larger reels. Except for the largest ones. I had a person buy everything that I had for those. It was 22lbs of parts. I have not taken the time to do a full inventory listing. Basically I have them sorted by reel size
Re: 308 Parts
Hi Syd,
For 308 reel:
1.) Do you have NOS Mitchell 308/309 Spool Container P/N# 9230 ? ( Black Plastic with "Mitchell" & "Large" words on lid), same container for the 408
I need Qty 2
2.) 1@ Slotted" Hex Nut P/N# 81298 or 67 ? ...for early model 308 FRONCE 1st Edition Series from 1959 to 1960.
See attachment for an example of the slotted hex nut.
thank you,
mike
For 308 reel:
1.) Do you have NOS Mitchell 308/309 Spool Container P/N# 9230 ? ( Black Plastic with "Mitchell" & "Large" words on lid), same container for the 408
I need Qty 2
2.) 1@ Slotted" Hex Nut P/N# 81298 or 67 ? ...for early model 308 FRONCE 1st Edition Series from 1959 to 1960.
See attachment for an example of the slotted hex nut.
thank you,
mike
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- Example of 308 Slotted Nut
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Mike, as you likely know by now, those are a tough find. I don't recall seeing one for sale. I have one spare. The hex nut was not introduced until about 70,000 reels (late 1960). They were so disliked by the repair houses, that Mitchell offered to send anyone who asked a hex nut for replacement for free, so I imagine many were tossed in the trash. Though I don't believe that program was terribly pervasive, as of the 103 1959-60 308/309 reels I've noted axle nuts, only 3 have come with hex nuts, the remaining have the factory spanner nuts. Among the Michell circles they've been generally known as 'spanner' nuts.
I had to make my own spanner wrench for these. See photo.
Sandman
I had to make my own spanner wrench for these. See photo.
Sandman
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Hello. I was able to check for those parts and I’m sorry to say that I do not have either of them
Syd
Syd
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Thank you Syd for looking.
Sandman,
thank you for the spanner nut details.....
A Different question:
Do you know the serial number range of the 1st Edition 1959-1960 Mitchell 308 "Prince" that recent photos show it has these build traits:
spanner nut, FRONCE on handle side plate, smooth knob, bail with spur lock, two piece trip lever with vintage original Mitchell factory grease.
Reason for this question:
i have a pristine 1st Edition 1959-1960 308 Prince spotted ( no box), but i am wary it could be a 1959-1960 standard 308 with the above build traits, that in modern times someone may have put a Prince sticker/decal the side plate.
the only visual clue i have to believe it is a real 1959-1960 308 "Prince" from the Mitchell factory .....is the Prince sticker edges seem to have collected the same type aged dust as the edges of the side plate. the side plate & its screw show no hint of every been opened. This 308 Prince does have a standard full serial number 026268 engraved on the foot, and of course the word France is not on the foot.i have not asked to see the gear box yet, but i assume it has the same Mitchell factory grease as the trip lever
Let me know your thoughts on the 308 Prince serial number range, and how to detect a true Mitchell factory made Prince iteration ( without the matching Mitchell box to help with verification).
thank you,
mike
Sandman,
thank you for the spanner nut details.....
A Different question:
Do you know the serial number range of the 1st Edition 1959-1960 Mitchell 308 "Prince" that recent photos show it has these build traits:
spanner nut, FRONCE on handle side plate, smooth knob, bail with spur lock, two piece trip lever with vintage original Mitchell factory grease.
Reason for this question:
i have a pristine 1st Edition 1959-1960 308 Prince spotted ( no box), but i am wary it could be a 1959-1960 standard 308 with the above build traits, that in modern times someone may have put a Prince sticker/decal the side plate.
the only visual clue i have to believe it is a real 1959-1960 308 "Prince" from the Mitchell factory .....is the Prince sticker edges seem to have collected the same type aged dust as the edges of the side plate. the side plate & its screw show no hint of every been opened. This 308 Prince does have a standard full serial number 026268 engraved on the foot, and of course the word France is not on the foot.i have not asked to see the gear box yet, but i assume it has the same Mitchell factory grease as the trip lever
Let me know your thoughts on the 308 Prince serial number range, and how to detect a true Mitchell factory made Prince iteration ( without the matching Mitchell box to help with verification).
thank you,
mike
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Hi Mike, I had reviewed that reel and all aspects except the drag knob seem to be original to the reel and are correct for the era. I'm not sure about the entire spool assembly. It could be a later replacement which would explain the drag knob. It's a nice looking reel. I have no reason to think the Prince back plate isn't original.
Up until about 33,000 (when Garcia was engraved on the face) reels there was no way to tell the difference between reels intended to to be distributed in the US (Garcia) and reels distributed in Europe (primarily Britain - Prince). They were the same reel. Only the Prince sticker was different. So, there is no way to be positive without the matching box. I've recorded 99, 308/309 from this era (pre-Garcia engraving) and 17 have been Prince (I own one of these - 030961). Records don't exist that tell us how many were made of each. I imagine if I was a collector in Britain, I would see more.
Only about the first 5500 were made in 1959. About 78,000 were produced in 1960. The 1959 reels are very uncommon. The rarest being the first 3000 or so which were not serial numbered. Maybe not boxed.
Hope this helps, glad to answer questions.
Sandman
Up until about 33,000 (when Garcia was engraved on the face) reels there was no way to tell the difference between reels intended to to be distributed in the US (Garcia) and reels distributed in Europe (primarily Britain - Prince). They were the same reel. Only the Prince sticker was different. So, there is no way to be positive without the matching box. I've recorded 99, 308/309 from this era (pre-Garcia engraving) and 17 have been Prince (I own one of these - 030961). Records don't exist that tell us how many were made of each. I imagine if I was a collector in Britain, I would see more.
Only about the first 5500 were made in 1959. About 78,000 were produced in 1960. The 1959 reels are very uncommon. The rarest being the first 3000 or so which were not serial numbered. Maybe not boxed.
Hope this helps, glad to answer questions.
Sandman
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Sandman,
thank you for the 308 Prince and early 308/309 enlightenment.
From your review ... i gather you felt this 308 S/N# 026268 is a 1960 build, likely a Mitchell factory built Prince with a modern replacement of the drag knob, with good possibility the entire spool was replaced. is this a correct summary?
"If" this 308 S/N# 026268 shipped from the Mitchell factory without a box, which spool would it gave shipped with on the reel, the Large or Small capacity spool?
If, in 1960 it shipped without a box, would it have included a spare spool, like a boxed unit does?
best regards,
mike
thank you for the 308 Prince and early 308/309 enlightenment.
From your review ... i gather you felt this 308 S/N# 026268 is a 1960 build, likely a Mitchell factory built Prince with a modern replacement of the drag knob, with good possibility the entire spool was replaced. is this a correct summary?
"If" this 308 S/N# 026268 shipped from the Mitchell factory without a box, which spool would it gave shipped with on the reel, the Large or Small capacity spool?
If, in 1960 it shipped without a box, would it have included a spare spool, like a boxed unit does?
best regards,
mike
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Hi Mike, yes, your summary is correct.
My "maybe no box" comment was only in reference to the "Pilot run", or the first 3000 reels. I've never seen one with a box. All others from about 3000 on came with a box. The Prince reels had a box that had PRINCE on the front of the box.
The early drag knobs (up to about 75,000 reels) had shorter 'wings'. Hard to see in the photo below. These were identical to all 300 drag knobs of the era. After that, they had tall wings. They were even with the top of the drag knob.
All boxed ULs came with a spare spool. The spare was a large capacity spool. All boxed ULs came with a spare spool and spool container beginning around 125,000 reels. There are some model 358 exceptions to this.
Sandman
My "maybe no box" comment was only in reference to the "Pilot run", or the first 3000 reels. I've never seen one with a box. All others from about 3000 on came with a box. The Prince reels had a box that had PRINCE on the front of the box.
The early drag knobs (up to about 75,000 reels) had shorter 'wings'. Hard to see in the photo below. These were identical to all 300 drag knobs of the era. After that, they had tall wings. They were even with the top of the drag knob.
All boxed ULs came with a spare spool. The spare was a large capacity spool. All boxed ULs came with a spare spool and spool container beginning around 125,000 reels. There are some model 358 exceptions to this.
Sandman
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