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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:46 pm • #  
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I have several reels, made in France, named Sun-Matic, which look a lot like the Mitchell style. Anybody know anything about these reels???


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Hello fxxy
I have never seen one of these, any chance you can post a picture or two?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:11 am • #  
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I would be glad to post a photo. BUT I need to know how...


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I've given direction on how to do this under Group Instructions. See http://www.mitchellreels.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75

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Hello fxxxy
Nice picture mate, thanks.
Sorry I cant tell you anything about it at the moment but I am sure there are some that can help if they will.
In the meantime I'll see what I can find out.

Kind regards Roy


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Hello,
This reel is a SUP-MATIC and not a copy of Mitchell but a reel Franco-Swiss product in France in the region of Haut-Rhin (east of France) by SINPAL (City : Le Bonhomme)
This reel has two speeds (model 707) or a single speed (model 606)
French Patents: No. 1104027 and 1104028
U.S. Patent: No. 2807965







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Hello Tirtou,

Welcome to our group and thank you for clearing this up. It did not look like any Mitchell I know of.

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Hello,
At first I can now put a photo record of the Sup-Matic.
This is a test, this will perhaps not work
   





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Hello Tirtou,
The diagram came out very nicely. When was the reel manufactured? Are there any French reels being manufactured in France anymore. In the UK there is no longer any production of fishing reels except maybe Hardys?
Best regards, Jim


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Hello JImbo

The patent Sup-Matic was registered in 1954 . The p
roduction began in 1956 to the factory Bertrand Vigier (BV Fario).
The distribution in the U.S. has been entrusted to the Corporation SOUTH BEND, who wanted to become the second distributor of fishing equipment after Garcia Mitchell.

South Bend ordered 150 000 reels in three years. In 1961 South Bend is in bankruptcy and the Sup-Matic is no longer manufactured for the European market.
In 1963 Sup-Matic is sold to the Company SINPAL. The production was stopped in 1970.


Regarding the French reels, the number of manufacturers has been big. The best known are: Mitchell, Pezon&Michel (Luxor), Bretton (factory Cluses like Mitchell!), AMR, PMR, BAM, Centaure, MEPPS, SNOP, RU and Alder, SAP, etc ....

I could talk at great length of French reels but it would be irrelevant compared to this forum
Below is a photo of some French reels in my collection



  


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Hello Tirtou
Thank you for the information and for showing us the photo, it is a very impressive display and a it's great pleasure to see it.

Kind regards Roy


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Hi Tirtou,

Very Impressive! Maybe you could do an article on these French reels? It would be very welcome in our group.

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that is a very nice collection. i hope we can see some more from you. thanks mate.

sincerely kyle


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Hello Mates:

Maybe nice to add some pics. from some nib. Sup-Matics i have in my collection.
The one with the green side-plate has the two gears. Both reels has on the waranty-card 1961 as purchase date.
By pulling the black round  knob on the handle you change gears.

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Hi Ron

Thanks for the pictures, just out of curiosity, what are the two gear ratios on the 2 speed one?

Kind regards Roy


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Hello Roy,

I can't find anything about the ratio in the manual, but if i look myself it will be about 2,7:1 and 4,3:1.
An other nice item is that the spool has an bajonet-release, so you have to push and turn the spool to remove it from the reel. Have not seen this on any other reel before.

Here maybe some intresting pics. for you.

Wish you nice days and an healthy 2011.

Best Regards, Ron

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Hello Ron

Thanks for the information, a good combination of ratio's, a low gear for hauling in a big fish and a nice high gear when speed is needed.
Like you I have never seen a bayonet fitting spool but I still have much to learn, perhaps other reel were made with this feature and perhaps other members will tell us.

Thanks also for the pictures, it really is an interesting design.

Have a great Christmas and best wishes for next year.

Kind regards Roy


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I have and early 606 and it has a stronger reel seat.The Mitchells have a tendancy to break here under stress.The bail wire is stainless steel unlike the Mitchell,and the bail spring is much stronger.The drag on the spool is much better,with a larger line capacity.Mine was made by Southbend Tackle Company I got from EBAY in Pennsylvania U.S.A.The handle is very strong  and hard to break,and it has a spiral steel main gear,brass other gears.Making this reel a tough one.Last but not least I't smooth and good looking.It will make a great light surf casting,or heavey freshwater reel.Too back quality reels like this are not made anymore.If you can grab one off Ebay your lucky.They are rare and worth there weight in gold.I'm very happy to own one.Have fun fishing,your Yank friend Tom.


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It's made rock solid and like a tank it will last forever if properly cared for. It is very innovative and really does'nt ressemble a Mitchell.I have a few spare parts for this reel if anyone needs a handle or something.Winter is really harsh here in Niagara Falls New york,but next month I'm on the Niagara river looking for the big one.


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Too bad quality reels like this are not made anymore.They would cost too much to make.I love my Supermatic 606 like they are called here in the States.The handle is spring loaded and with a push,twist it folds in for convenience.The handle is very strong aluminum.The bail is stainless steel with a strong spring.The reel seat is thicker and stronger than the Mitchell 300.The main gear is spiral and steel with a brass spool cover drive gear.The idler gears are like a Mitchell,some type of alloy.It has a larger line capacity spool with a stronger drag than the mitchell,but it is also a bit heavier.It is a bit harder to totally take apart and clean,but it is like a tank and will last your lifetime if propery cared after.If you can find one one Ebay "good luck",they are hard to find.Cranking on the handle is'nt too hard on the wrist and looks are top notch.This reel would be a great light surfcasting reel.I have a Mitchell 301 and 306 and love them too,but this reel is great too.I have a few spare parts for the Supmatic if anyone needs some?Next month when our crazy winter is over,i'ts fishin time again .Yours truly,Tom from Niagara falls New York.


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