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Author:  watermole+ [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Right hand wind Mitchell question..

Fairly recently, very kind gentleman gave a present to me in the form of a right hand wind Mitchell 300/301 reel.
It is a very early model which has seen a great deal of use over the years and there seems to be a question of uncertainty about the date of manufacture.
It has a half bale pick up and the "butterfly" anti reverse lever, which, according to the history chart, makes it a "third version".
However, there is no serial number at all on the outer casing or cover, only 'THECLA" plus a casting number inside, which suggests it must predate those that do have numbers..?

As it was a present, it will never be sold again, but for personal reasons and out of interest only, I would be interested to hear your views, which must be infinitely more knowledgeable than mine.

With regards to all.

Author:  toulady6 [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Right hand wind Mitchell question..

Hello watermole+,

Welcome to mitchellmates :sSig_welcome4:
I hope you'll enjoy our forum.
The best way to show what you have is a picture .
We have many Mitchell 300/301 specialists here who can tell you more about your reel.
Looking forward to see some picures.

regards,

Dries :sAni_fish:

Author:  Ted Lanham [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Right hand wind Mitchell question..

watermole+,
If your reel has the handle on the right side while hanging from a rod, it would be a Mitchell made for a left-handed person. Later these reels were designated a Mitchell 301, but early on they used the same side-plate as one that was used on a reel made for a right handed person.
Concerning its age, here what Wallace had to say about when the serial numbers started appearing.
"1946/49 No Serial Numbers but various stamps on foot but in 1949/52 Serial Numbers first begin within the 3rd version release. These have a letter prefix starting with “A” followed by only 5 numeric digits. The serial numbers were stamped on the bottom of the foot at first but between SN A66544 and SN A74901 it was moved to the Housing."
If your reel has no serial number either on the reel foot, or on the back of the gear case, then your reel would have been made between 1946/49.
Value for these reel depend on their condition, so one that has been a great deal might not be worth more than $20 and a mint one could get more than $100 if they have the correct box and papers.

Regards,
Ted Lanham

Author:  watermole+ [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Right hand wind Mitchell question..

Many thanks for all your help, guidance and words of welcome!
What you have said makes sense but I have also been told that there is some confusion as to when reels started to be numbered..?

My particular reel has no serial number either on the casing, sideplate or anywhere on the reel foot. It has had a lifetime of use-as paintwork bears testimony-but has recently been brought back to first class condition mechanically and runs like new.
It also has a shallow spool in a metal tub.

Here are some pictures..

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wm+

Author:  toulady6 [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Right hand wind Mitchell question..

Hello watermole+,

I made a comparison with the third version that I have (lefthand wind and no s.n ) mine was estimated 1948 .
It has a different line -guide ,the handle is flat at the end .
Also the main gear is a bit different.
I know that Mitchell changed and improved their reels during that time .
I,m sure one of our mates can tell us a bit more .

regards,

Dries :sAni_fish:

Author:  Smead [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Right hand wind Mitchell question..

Looks very nice inside!

Though I do believe that the original Levelwind main gear and transfer gear have been replaced with later style Crosswind parts. The early Crosswind parts looked quite different. Then again perhaps early Crosswind parts were replaced by newer ones if the had worn.

Though it's LH without a SN, so it's rarish just due to that.

http://www.mitchellreelmuseum.com/index.php/category/532

Quote:
Most third versions were Right-Handed (left hand wind) with Level Wind gearing only as it was on all first and second versions. Cross-Wind gearing as well as Left-Hand reels (right hand wind) were offered as an option about the same time serial numbers...

Author:  piscesman [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Right hand wind Mitchell question..

Great topic and pictures. Just one question though. What does Helga and the letters and numbers mean stamped inside the housing?
Kim :sCh_fisherman: :sCo_hmmthink:

Author:  toulady6 [ Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Right hand wind Mitchell question..

Hi kim,

I think Thecla is the aluminum company .

regards,

Dries :sAni_fish:

Author:  Liondor [ Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Right hand wind Mitchell question..

Hello Kim,
I confirm the words of Dries, Foundry Thecla in Delle (Territoire de Belfort in eastern France) was founded in 1925 to take over and serve French customers of the company Thecla based in Saint- Ursanne (Switzerland)
A workshop built in 1930 and expanded in 1948, 1952 ... .., is vested in the treatment of zamak
This foundry manufactured the first Mitchell reel models for left-handed, ALUVAC manufactured right-handed
The third model and the first left 4th models had the indications on one or more parts of the reel: THECLA F.857.A1 (frame) - THECLA F.857.A2 (coverplate) - THECLA F 857.A3 (rotating head), with or without indication France.
Just my findings on the models I have.
Best regards,

Author:  toulady6 [ Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Right hand wind Mitchell question..

Bonjour Christian,

thanks very much for this information. :sSig_thankyou:

Dries

Author:  bailarm [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:39 am ]
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Thank-you Liondor, I'd seen these casting marks and never grasped that THECLA was only on the RHW reels. So two different foundries....I wonder why?

And neither of them that near to Cluses..........

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