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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:46 pm • #  
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trying to find information/value on a Garcia Spinette real made 1954 Germany. Robert, USA

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Hi Robert, I have a small collection of Garcia spinette reels.i think there was an issue for the U.S. market and also for the European market.the U.S. version will say garcia spinette on the side cover and have a round handle knob.a euro version,the side cover will have a fish and the word "platil" in a circle and the word spinette under the circle. Under the word spinette three initials "dbp". Euro version side covers will have a fish and no word platil in a circle and the word spinette under the circle, also has 3 initials dbp. The bail wire is different on this version, it has a roller guide and the handle knob is flat.

I have recently purchased a 1/2 bail which I have not received as yet. Not much attention for these reels and the price structure tells the story. I have seen these reels sell for $5.00 to $35.00 and a $35.00 reel would be mint.hope this helps. Doug

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Vintage SPINETTE spinning reel half bale Garcia



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Hello Doug,

Knowing you've been collecting Mitchell and the Spinette reels for decades, I was hoping you'd do the reply, Thanks Mate!

I've never seen the half bail like the one you bought so I added a link to your post. Please let us know what you think when you receive it?

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hi wallace, thanks for adding the link,i didnt know how to do it, and didnt think of it. doug


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Hi All,

Thanks for the info. Comments made years ago, I know, but you may still be connected and other searchers may enjoy some Garcia content from 1954 (below). From the catalogs I have, Spinette was present 1954-56 (not in '53 or '57).


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1954 loose page for the trade (which matches 1954 consumer catalog content). 1955 and 1956 consumer catalogs do not show $15 reel box with extra spool.

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Page from 1956 consumer catalog.

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Greetings J Fiskat,
Welcome to The Mitchell Reel Museum. :sBo_bounce2:
That's some great paper for a reel I don't know much about, but there was one eBay recently that got my interest. I never used one of these so I don't know how they would compare to the ulta lites Mitchell produced.
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Ted,

I don't own a Spinette, so I am not able to tell you about its performance - I was looking into the Spinette for a contact.

A German collector contact has informed me this reel was made by Plate (Bonn, Germany) - as Doug had written above. Attached is a Plate catalog cover from around 1956-58 - the collector thinks. The cover shows the Spinette, as well as the Atlantis (which Charles Garcia imported/cataloged 1953-54). I have Atlantis catalog images if there is interest. Note also on the Plate cover are other Charles Garcia imports: Kopper Wobbler and Platyl line/leader.

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Wallace wrote: "I am holding one and it's actually a very well made reel, a lot better than the Galion reels that came later IMO."

http://www.mitchellreelmuseum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=140&hilit=spinette&sid=8e8f35c0cbfbcad8dce54154c0e5f6e7


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Hi John and Ted,

Here are my Spinette reels. One is a Platil Spinette and one is a Garcia Spinette. I believe both are from 1954-1955. Platil was the manufacturer of these reels in Germany and the Garcia Spinette was the North American distribution. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the Garcia Spinette was very short lived, 12 - 18 months because Mitchell took exception to Garcia's name on a reel manufactured by a competitor.
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These reels are well made and quite simple. Note that the bail snaps shut when making contact with the reel stem. I would put them in the same class as the Mitchell 320.

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Here is the reel I purchase from Ben Wright before he passed away. The box is a little rough but complete. Also if you notice the spelling of the fishing line is different from Garcia to original. If you look on the box and one of my photos and the Box of the fishing line it has the same fish jumping with the hook in its mouth. Enjoy.
Kim :sCh_fisherman: :sHa_okay:


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Now the various fishing line. Notice how they're both almost identical.
Kim :sCh_fisherman:


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The Garcia spinning reel in the Box.
Kim :sCh_fisherman: :sAni_fish:


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More pictures of fishing line.
Kim :sCh_fisherman:


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Last ones. I know it's a duplicate picture but this is to compare with the fish and the label of each item :sCh_fisherman: :sCo_hmmthink:
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Kim,

Quote from history of Platil webpage:
http://www.platil.de/uk/historie_uk_01.php

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In 1947, the company was founded under the name Dr Plate Chemische Fabrik GmbH by Dr Karl Plate, a renowned inventor, in Bonn...

In 1949, Dr Karl Plate registered the first monofilament plastic-fibre fishing line under the trade name PLATIL, which became a well-known trademark all over the world and is now probably the oldest existing brand name for monofilament fishing lines. The name PLATIL was conceived by combining the name of its inventor, Dr PLATE, with the word FILAMENT.

It looks like Charles Garcia changed the name to Platyl for the US market.

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Kim,

Just to confirm, the fish logo is a Platil registered trademark (see below). Your Platyl boxes or spools should have "Germany" on them somewhere, according to US marking statute (from 1890 on) to identify country of origin. (I see your Garcia yellow cardboard Platyl box from the 60s does have "made in Germany".)

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Chris and Kim,

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Very cool stuff you've collected!
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John and Kim,

Great information on these reels and history of Platil/Platyl. I've had these reels in my collection for a few years but never really knew much about them - Thanks for the education. My Spinette reels came from the aforementioned Doug in this thread. We stay in touch and are very good friends.

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Hello collectors, Hello Chris,
You have with your Spinette 30 from the company Dr. Plate the first model :sHa_clap2: .
It is very rare and from 1953 since the inscription "Platil" and DBPa is present.
In the later models the inscription "Platil" is missing and they are only marked with DPD.
greetings Walter


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Hello Walter,

Thank you very much for the information. These reels are very well made and a nice part of my collection but I had no idea that the Platil reel was special. I would be interested in your expertise on the Platil brand in addition to John and Kim's

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