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Though most vintage Mitchell reels have oval shape bodies; my purpose for identifying these reels as Egg-Shape is very simple. They all have the basic classic body (housing) design of the very first Mitchell with a three screw "Cover Plate" plus and most important; these all were serial numbered in sequence at the Mitchell factory after assembly regardless of the different models or even which distributor (country) they were made for.

The models I’ve found to have the same SN sequence are the Mitchell 300/301, 300C/301C, 300DL/301DL, Otomatic, 330/331, Rapid, 350/351 400/401, 410/411, 410DL, 440/441, 440/441 Match, Garcia Mitchell Match (no 440/441 engraved), 500, 510 and 540. Other Classic Egg-Shape models made after 1970 were included in the same serial number sequence.

There were certain “events” that happened and documented that helped “date” a change in the reel. Other artifacts and celebrations also documented dates. These are from a continuing spreadsheet study I originally did and self-published in January 2006 called Mitchell ~ Rebirth of a Legend.  Because this is not an exact science some may be off but they can’t be by much.

Please note that these dates are the approximate date of manufacture at the factory and NOT date of receipt by the wholesaler, retailer or when it was first advertised or purchased that always happened later. Gaps between the serial numbers I give are ones I’ve not found and documented. Therefor these gaps in serial numbers could be the years before or after. Please use this as a general dating guide only!

The first four versions of the 300 called “The Mitchell” at the time did not have the 300/301 model number engraved. The first two versions did not have serial numbers at all and the beginning of the 3rd version also did not have numbers. Keeping this in mind:

1st Version – 1939/40 No Serial Numbers but a  “unique” #5 is stamped on foot

2nd Version – 1940/46 No Serial Numbers but various stamps on foot

3rd Version – 1946/49 No Serial Numbers but various stamps on foot

3rd Version – 1949/52 Serial Numbers first begin within the 3rd version release. These have a letter prefix starting with “A” followed by only 5 numeric digits. The serial numbers were stamped on the bottom of the foot at first but between SN A66544 and SN A74901 it was moved to the Housing. The breakdown of these years are:

1949/50 – SN “A” Prefix began within 3rd Versions with the lowest serial number I’ve found being #A02558 however; a new discovery was made in 2008 by Jan Haanstra, a well known Mitchell Collector in Holland, a unique 3rd Version with very unique Cross-Wind Gears! It has now been fully documented that Mitchell first introduced the Cross-Wind gearing in 1949/50. To distinguish these from the common Level-Wind gearing they installed a red anodized Handle Knob. The lowest serial number found to date is #A07127 and the highest is #A07324 with two others in between. The red knob had been replaced on one that was discovered but when checked it had the “unique” Cross-Wind gearing. These are extremely rare so start looking!

For more information on types of gearing please see the Museum’s Glossary on Gearing / Spooling.

1950/52 – SN  “A, B & C” Prefixes are found on 3rd Versions but again another anomaly occurred; Test or “Pilot” 4th Version full bails were made on what I currently believe on two runs. The first run was found with serial number B29598 and the second with #B49681 or about 20,000 reels later. Between these two numbers I’ve documented regular 3rd versions with serial numbers as low as #B32817 and as high as #B42156. Besides the serial number, they are easy to document as authentic with very unique parts within the Head including the Baffle Plate. These are also extremely rare!!!

This was the end of the standard half bail and the beginning of the 4th version full bail:

4th Version 1951/52 – SN “C” Prefix was carried over with the transition period occurring in the very low “C” serial number prefix range. The lowest number I've found on a common 4th version was #C00447 but the highest number found on a 3rd version with a prefix was #C03203. The highest number found with this prefix on a 4th version was #C92525.

This is when Mitchell realized there wasn’t going to be enough alphanumeric numbers so they changed to just numbers. The lowest SN I’ve documented is #40779 and the highest is #9963012 and over 900 more serial numbers in between and growing!

Matching Serial Number stickers started being placed on each box’s outer brown paper shipping wrap somewhere within this time period. Unfortunately almost all of these wrappers have been discarded but several have been found and documented, still in their original factory state.

1953 – SN 40779 to 203519

1954 – SN 235985 to 617792

1955 – SN 624001 to 1004270 (SN 624001 was the earliest 5th Version I’ve found)

1956 – SN 1040182 to 1517887

1957 – SN 1520736 to 1883288

1958 – SN 1889513 to 2225412 (SN 1889513 was the earliest 6th Version I’ve found)NOTE: Between SN 1883288 and SN 1889513 marks the beginning of matching Serial Numbers on boxes. It’s also when they moved the serial number stamp forever back to the reel’s foot.

1959 – SN 2282964 to 2959786

1960 – SN 3067452 to 3579119

1961 – SN 3616448 to 4218719

1962 – SN 4267369 to 4870499

1963 – SN 4918411 to 5494100

1964 – SN 5546867 to 5953668

1965 – SN 5996632 to 6579351

1966 – SN 6656941 to 7276825

1967 – SN 7282575 to 7895887

1968 – SN 7959216 to 8570524 (SN 7959216 was the earliest 7th Version I’ve found)

1969 – SN 8603501 to 9244733

1970 – SN 9295633 to 9963012

When nearing 10 million "Classic Egg-Shaped" reels made; in 1971 Mitchell reverted back to their original alphanumeric serial numbers with a wide variety of digit combination's. This makes it very easy to date these reels by just the serial number letter prefix. These started in 1971 with the letter “A” prefix and so on. Interesting to know that in 1971 Mitchell also celebrated the 20-Millionth Mitchell reel manufactured in Cluses, France.


1971 = A

1972 = B

1973 = C

1974 = D (Matching Serial Number stickers on boxes ended during this year)

1975 = E

1976 = F

1977 = G (SN G018501 was the earliest 8th Version I’ve found)

1978 = H

1979 = I  (The letter I was not used to my knowledge due to the similar # 1)

1979 = J

1980 = K

1981 = L

1982 = M

1983 = N

1984 = O (The letter O was used on a few reels but stopped due to the similar # 0)

1984 = P

1985 = Q

1986 = R

1987 = S

1988 = T (The last of the serial numbers. Mitchell closed the factory in 1988/89)

1989 = T (New Old Stock Parts were used to make limited quantities of Mitchell reels that were still being hand assembled in France)

1990 = No serial numbers with few exceptions such as the Mitchell 300 PRO Anniversary that has been documented as one model still being assembled in France however; most models are now being manufactured in Taiwan.

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Walalce,

From this we should all look at our 300s and try and find any with numbers that fill in your 'gaps'. If we do this then we should be able to establish the actual number made -- correct? The problem i have is i might find a 'gap' reel but i will not know what year it was made. Can you give us a view on what to look for. For example if i find reel number 220000 is it a 53 or 54 reel????

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Hi Mike,

Every number you see above was a reel purchased and studied by me with few exceptions. By gathering numbers from eBay or even direct from people, you lose control over the validity of what is there. A person can own a mint in box that's not in the correct box. Not knowing this, he could send the wrong information and mess up the entire system. Remember I put each one of these on a spreadsheet with specific detailed information on each reel. If someone has a reel numbered within the gaps they want to share, it would be great to fill in but somehow it would need to be confirmed information with many details and pictures. Out of the reels I studied, even I didn't use about 30% of them for many reasons; the main one being an obvious upgraded reel. Did anyone see the listing for the 1950s reel in a late 1960s plastic box with an early 1960s box insert sold about a month ago?

Determining how many can not be done with this study. We know in 1955 Mitchell celebrated the 10,000th case of reels being sent out for distribution. In 1955 their big seller was naturally the 300 series. These cases were packed with sixty reels per case; 60 x 10,000 = 600,000 but what about the other models? How many cases of the 302 series had been sent by them and where they included in this celebration? Worse yet, in 1955 they were producing other model reels with sequential serial numbers, like the 350 and 330. Were they included?

Fast forward to 1971; Mitchell celebrated 20 million reels made but the classic egg-shaped reel serial numbers had hit only half; 10 million. The other 10 mil was all the models made.

Regarding your specific question as to the proposed SN 220000, is it a 53 or 54; I'll say two things.:

For now these are "transitional reels" and could be a 1953 or 1954. The study is a guideline and not date specific. I'm working on a project that will show the specifics of each reel's appearance not including packaging or any form of advertising such as stickers and labels applied to boxes which has nothing to do with when each reel was made or what version it is. Hope this helps...

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Hi Wallace
I see that you say that no "O" numbers were used, I am not sure that this is correct.
I could be wrong here but I feel fairly sure I have seen a few of these.
Is it possible that a few "O" numbers were done before they realized that it would cause confusion?

I would appreciate your thoughts my friend.

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Dear Roy,

Thank you for pointing this out and I now believe you are correct. In past discussions in a place far far away I held fast to these not existing, the letter "O" not being used. The ones claiming they did would not show any "proof", not even one photograph so I held to my oldest beliefs. I hear so much misinformation I've learned not to accept anything without provenance of whatever it is' existence.

Since I wrote the above I finally received solid proof from someone willing to share his Mitchell 400, Mint in Box with serial number O.1.10 which goes along with what others were saying. All mentioned (I think) were in the 400 series reels and all had very low "O" serial numbers so they were right and I was wrong. I wish they would have shared?!

I will make this correction as well as add in the first full bail serial numbers.

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Hi wallace,
Yes wallace it would seem the 400 series reels have the letter O, as documented elsewhere i had a 408S which had the serial number O111 a number which has duplicated itself on many reels Image A good friend from North Carolina gave me the heads up on this when i called and asked him if he had seen the letter "O" as the first digit of a serial number, several reels was his answer though he did not mention 400 series reels only, when i go back and think of former threads elsewhere other collectors had multiple 400 series reels in their collection, the serial number begining with the letter O. Statements have been made and documented that the letter O was used for a short period of time, when someone may of realised the O looked simular to a 0 (ZERO) mitchell decided not to use it any further, were all entitled to our opinions i guess so here,s mine, the 408S i had did have the O serial number and thats it as far as im concerned, it did exist Image. How long for? im sure we will find out in due course.

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Dear Martin, I am so sorry I missed your post!

I agree there's a few serial numbers found beginning with the letter "O" as you say. It also appears to me these were short lived.

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Hello all,

I just began cleaning up the reel my father bought in the early 1950's. He passed away in 1955 and I used it for about two years after that, then it just remained in a box until now.
I scraped out all of the hardened grease and got it working again. I did not have any new grease, but I sprayed some gun oil on the gears and that seemed to work.

The serial number is B71177. Does that fall into the 1950/1952 category? The post above does not have numbers in the71000's.

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Hi Barry,

Welcome to our group!

Your reel is under 1950/52 but I've not documented one with a "B" prefix serial number that high, maybe someone else has?

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Nice to meet you Wallace. Thank you for responding. I double checked the serial number because it is so much higher than the documented numbers, and it is indeed B71177.
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Hi Wallace
I have been going through my spread sheet and have found two number higher than the one Barry has.
B88346 & B97625 both were 3rd version half bails, one had 7 on the foot, the other had something but I couldn't say what it was.

Hi Barry
Thanks for joining in mate.

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Hello Barry and Roy,

Thank you both for these high serial numbers. I've always thought they went much higher but did know til now. How about the "A" and "C" prefix, I wonder how high they went? Right now I'd assume the "A" went to 99,999 but the "C" prefix went away sooner, I think. At what serial number would be interesting.

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Hi Wallace
The highest I can go from my records is A74901 & C95101

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Hi Roy,

I need to stop trying to post, not well! I meant when the "C" prefix went from half bail to full bail mate.

Here's one spreadsheet I have been working on:
BP2 A02558 X R HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP2 A07127 X 2-Rs HALF SM THIN MITCHELL C/W SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP2 A07134 X wow HALF SM THIN MITCHELL C/W SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP2 A07272 X wow HALF SM THIN MITCHELL C/W SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP2 A07324 X AorV HALF SM THIN MITCHELL C/W SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP2 A07440 X X6 HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP2 A15778 X R HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP2 A16757 X V HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A18505 X K HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A20831 X K HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A21860 X V HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A27952 X V HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A34118 X A HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A43565 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A45742 X V HALF SM THIN MITCHELL LH SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A46180 X A HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A46620 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A46902 X 5 HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A49811 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A59492 X 5 HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A62375 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A65042 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 A66544 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 A74901 X H HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B01522 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B03779 X A1 HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B04528 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B07324 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B10624 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B12863 X 5 HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B13309 X V HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B15488 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B17750 X N/A HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B20358 X L HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B25260 X H HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B27109 X (?) HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
NEW B29598 X (?) FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH UNIQUE 4*
BP4 B32817 X N/A HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B38298 X V HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B42156 X V HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
NEW B49681 X N/A FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH UNIQUE 4*
BP4 B56622 X V HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 B63967 XX O HALF SM THIN MITCHELL LH SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP3 B69161 X V HALF SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B88346 X F HALF LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 B97625 X (?) HALF LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP5 C00447 X (?) FULL SM THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP4 C02033 X (?) HALF LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP4 C03203 X (?) HALF LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP5 C12555 X (?) FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP5 C16190 X (?) FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP5 C37631 X (?) FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/HALF ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP5 C52268 X V FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP5 C56818 X V FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP5 C57015 X O FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP5 C59287 X (?) FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/HALF ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP5 C65823 X (?) FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP5 C80949 X (?) FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/HALF ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP5 C91521 X A1 FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/HALF ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*
BP5 C92525 X (?) FULL LG THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*

For what it's worth...

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Hi Wallace

Sorry that you don't feel well mate.

That's what I meant too mate C95101 was a half bail.
This is the highest "C" number I have found on a half bail so far and of course I have found quite a few full bails with lower numbers.

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Hi Roy,

I have serial numbers on half bails even higher but I was hoping we could narrow the gap between:

BP4 C03203 X
(?) HALF LG
THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH PICK-UP 4*
BP5 C12555 X
(?) FULL LG
THIN MITCHELL SP/FULL ANGLE/SMOOTH TEETH/SAW 4*


where it appears the full bails took over.

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Hi Wallace
Yes I agree, it would be good to narrow the gap if we can.
Right now I have nothing on record between C03203 & C12555 but I have quite a lot of reels that I haven't looked at yet.
I am hoping to do some work on this over Christmas and I'll advise you of any numbers in this target area.

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Hi Wallace
I am sorry to report that at the moment I have no reels with serial numbers between C03203 & C12555.
I will buy some more reels Image we do need to tie down the change from half to full bail a little closer if we can.

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Hi Roy,

Thanks for your efforts my friend but I think the odds finding and buying one of these may be 1,000,000 to 1 Image

Perhaps someone reading this has one?

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Last night I checked my 300 series reels for the serial numbers and I have two that are not listed in this post.  The first one falls in between two years and the second one starts with CC.

9253407     think this is a 69 or a 70?

CC4401     this is a full bail, any ideas on this one?
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Hi Syd,

The list is only a guide and is not exact but maybe good within one year so there's no way I can say whether your SN 9253407 is a 1969 or a 1970. I did this list to aid people being able to tell at least tell what era is was made in. You can safely say it's from the late 1960s to early 1970s as an example.

The full bail SN CC4401 appears to be a circa 1973 and is probably SN C04401 especially if it has a straight anti-reverse lever. Hope this helps mate...

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Hello All,

Please see my original post for requested updates written in red. This includes serial number locations and versions relating to serial numbers.

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Hello Wallace:

Can you help me with a footnumber.

It's about a Garcia 810  sn. GC55602. Have the reel nib. with papers.
Strange that there is a GREEN card with 810 840 in the box instead of a brown, but stands no garcia on the box.
The letter C is clearly a C and no O or 0.

I have also a used Garcia 810 with the SAME footnumber. Also a clear C.

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Hi Ron,

These reels were manufactured from 1975 my friend, to find such a reel with anything less than a "F" serial number on it would be questionable, other forums have been looking for an "E" serial number for a long time on the 810/840 and come up with nothing, unless someone has put the serial number on themselves i would find it hard to accept a reel with a "C", this would mean the reel is 3 years older than its release date. Its my guess the reel is a "G" not stamped fully mate.
Can you tell me Ron if the reel foot is NON-REINFORCED or REINFORCED please Image.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:59 am • #  
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Hi Ron,

I agree with Martin regarding serial numbers but think he meant they were first made in 1976 with the "F" letter prefix. I have not found anything dated earlier than early 1977. Are there any dates on your box or paperwork?

I have seen the double "letter" prefix before and can only guess this was a mistake by Mitchell. Many identical serial numbers have also been found starting in the mid 1970s. It's amazing you ended up with two that are the same...

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ImageImageImageHello Martin and Wallace

No half O or Bad G, Very clear C.

Add. som Pics.  I think they are quite good, afer i tried 40 shots. Had no talk-powder to make the numbers white white.

Do you know someting about the green 810 840 card? Have not seen it before.

Regards Ron.


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Not reinforced mate.

Added pics.

Regards Ron


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Hi Ron,

The box is what i call a european box and the green card is for France and Japan so im led to believe.
As for the serial number it sure does look like a "G" to me mate

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Hi, Ron:

This is just to add my two cents in hopes that it might shed some more light on your serial number question.  There are several Mitchell enthusiasts who have researched serial numbers to a great extent.  Although some may disagree on the finer points, most agree that Mitchell used a Julian calendar system to date their reels from 1974 to 1983.  In that system, the letter designates the year of manufacture.  The first three numbers indicate the day of manufacture corresponding to the days in one year (Julian dating system from 1 to 365).  The last two numbers indicate the month of manufacture from 01 to 12.

If you follow this dating system, then your reel clearly would have been made in February (02 as the last two numbers).  The first three numbers would then logicall have to fall between 032 (February 1st) and 059 (February 28th).  If this is logical, then the "C" that you are seeing is really an incomplete "0".  Incomplete stamping happened all the time with serial numbers.  The letter sure looks like a "G" to me as it also appears that way to others.  Hope this information helped.

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Hi Ron,

I believe your reels are maybe the last model 810 reels with the non re-inforced foot, made just before the reels went over to the 810A model they have a non re-inforced foot and NO RED GASKET, the box is a great find with the green label, a better find than the reels possibly


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