Mitchell Reel Museum Discussion Group

The spool rides high I guess because the line bunches at the bottom....

Any ideas on a fix for this??

Thanks.

Florida Phil,
I agree with ffwayne about the incorrect spool.
You can also try doing a search at the bottom of the " Mitchell Service Talk" page for line lay and noise. There is a lot of information that can be found there from very knowledgeable mates.

Ted Lanham

Thank you, guys, for your insights... I will look at all of these and see how it goes. I think the answer I need just may be at least one of the things you mentioned... maybe a couple of them. The first chance I get, I am going to try them...

Thank you again...

Okay Fellas,

I have made some progress on my 410....

I added a second shim (#81024) head to housing and that seems to have fixed my line lay issues completely. Also, from your posts I guess the aluminum spool is from a 410A that someone put on this reel. I like the bright contrast with the aluminum and the spool and line lay seem to be working fine for now, so I will plan to keep it on there. This reel is used and already has its own character and the spool seems to be part of it.

As for the extra gear noise... I added an extra shim (#81047) under the pinion gear and it helped some. I added a third shim and could not notice any more help lowering the noise. So it is some better but still there... I am unsure what else to do to further improve the noise. It's not bad, but I would like to fix it more, if I can.

Also, the dust shield (#81110) on the handle was already missing when I got it.... I would really like to find one. Not luck yet.

Thats it for now. Thank you for all your help and ideas.

Phil

Florida Phil,
You are "right on" about 1977 being the year of your reel's production. I agree that those spools look great, and add some personality to your Mitchell. If it spools fine, no problems there.
I will tell you my own experience, sometimes, if I'm not happy with the amount of noise I'm getting from a 300, and I've shimmed it to death, I have just taken the side plate off and put it right back on with the handle in a different position, and it seems to help. Maybe, that's just something I've imagined, but I always try that before giving up.
Other time times, I have just loosen the screws and shifted the side plate a little, and it helps. I have some assorted dust shields somewhere. I'll check to see if any are for that size reel.

Regards,
Ted Lanham

Florida Phil,
Since you mentioned that you want a dust shield (81110) why not buy a new handle assembly, as I believe the one you have is not the correct one for your reel anyways. I know that on the 300C reels there is also a dust shield and it is sometimes sold with the handle, even though it is not officially listed as part of the handle assembly.

Here is a link to a photo of a "G" 410 that Wallace has provided for us which might be helpful to you.(Scroll down to the photo's of the "G" part numbered reel.)

http://www.mitchellreelmuseum.com/index ... tegory/499

Part numbers for a 1969 410 handle assembly, and each of the parts that make up the assembly, are as follows:
81098 Handle Shank (410)
81044 Handle Knob Screw
81060 Handle Knob
81059 Knob Lube Port (See MRM knob photo)
81100 Handle, Complete (410)
(Remember that there were 410-left hand wind, and 411-right hand wind reels made and often times required different parts)
Since there is not a 1977 schematic available at the MRM, this is the best I could do for part numbers but I think these will be right. Does anyone else have a 1977 schematic??

By the way, while you are looking at the photos in the MRM Gallery of your reel, you might want to look closely at the line guide on the reel shown. You will see the roller type of line guide which is what the final version (G) of the 410 reels were equipped with. This did not happen until after the 1969 version, which is what my schematic is dated, so I could not include part numbers of it.
Hope this helps,
Kind Regards,
Bill

Mike,
I would be happy to help you out.



Actually what I was asking was "Does anyone else have a 1977 schematic??" Part numbers are easy to obtain at the MRM. Just go to the 'Home' tab at the top of this page. Scroll down to the second row of windows where you see a window which says "Parts List" at the top in red letters, and select it. When the window opens up, scroll down to where it says: "1946 - 1968" and select the model number of your reel from the list. You can also type in the reel model number under where it says: "1968 - 1979" and get results as well. This is just another free service available to all at the Mitchell Reel Museum!!

Anyways, the reason I was asking if anyone had a schematic for the 410 is that they are not as easy to come by as other models. This was partly because Garcia, for some unknown reason, made the users manual for the 410 a bit differently than some of the others, that included a schematic and a parts list w/prices. They took and combined the reel models for the 300C, 410, 410DL, and 510, all together in the same manual. This occurred around 1972. Because of this they did not include the schematics for any of the reels (listed above) as they had done in the past for other reels.



So I guess you disagree with my suggestion to get a new handle and that's fine by me. Personally, trying to fish with a handle with a Torpedo knob from one reel, a shank from another and a hub from who knows what is a recipe for disaster. I prefer to use the correct parts that were designed to go together, and not something that was cobbled together by someone who had no idea what they were doing. But, that is just my opinion. As they say; "One man's meat is another man's poison."

The high speed reels, of which this is one, came with handles with longer shanks, a Torpedo handle and were designed......well read it for yourself in the below attached.
Kind Regards,
Bill

Florida Phil,
If you still need a dust cover for that 410, I found some covers that I believe is what you need. The inside diameter is 1/2 in., so to might be able to verify that is the one you need. If you still need it, send me a PM.

Regards,
Ted Lanham