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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:13 pm • #  
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I have a Mitchell 3-0-8 with sn 049159 and another 3-0-8 with sn 483287. what year were these manufactured? Thanks ahead of time.


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Greetings rubiconrambler,
:sSig_welcome4: to the Mitchell reel Museum.
Here's a chart one of the mates created that may help."IF" i have looked at the chart correctly, your earliest reel would have been produced in 1960, and the later in 1966. I have been known to misread this chart. :sCh_taz: :sCh_taz:

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Ted, you got it correct!!! :sHa_clap2:

rubicon, the 049159 is considered a first version. Photos would be great...we could tell you even more...does it have Garcia engraved on the front plate?

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Mates,
Practice makes perfect! :sFun_oldguy:

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Thanks for the feedback, Garcia is engraved on the front plate. Reel is in excellent shape except for the bail which is very corroded, not sure why the bail is corroded and the rest of the reel is pristine. I tried adding photos to the bucket but they did not take. I am looking for a bail and spring for it currently.


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Not too uncommon for the chrome to degraded and the paint in good shape...just means the reel was exposed to moisture for long periods, but not submerged in water for long periods...good condition bails of this era come up once in awhile, but not often...I usually have to buy a whole reel to get a good one of these bails...to leave it period correct, you will need to remove the line guide and line guide screw and reinstall on the replacement bail...

Does it have FRONCE cast into the front plate?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:15 pm • #  
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Sandman,
Yes it does have Fronce on the front plate. Still working on photos


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It’s considered by most collectors to be a first version, second release...fairly sought after depending on condition..


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I tried uploading couple pictures of my 308, not sure it worked.


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limited to 3 photos per reply...can see the rotating head or bail well, but the bail trip lever looks like it may not be original...photos of the head and bail would reveal more...the body is definitely a first version, second release...

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Here are a couple more pictures


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Thanks, I should of been specific...the underside of the head has lettering that tells us if the head is original to the body and the trip lever, if original, would not have a notch in the side...that one is a little hard to describe...it looks like yours has the notch, but can't quite tell for sure...I can show some photos of what I mean if needed...did it not come with a bail?

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Another question...can you take the spool off and show a photo of the inside of the head? Looking for the original axle nut...they were spanner type vs hex type...

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Here are 3 more pics. The trip lever has a notch. My 308 from 1966 does not have a trip lever that is notched.


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The rotating head and spanner axle nut are period correct, so not much question that they are original to the reel...the spanner nut looks clean, so likely nobody has attempted to remove it...

Since the trip levers are incorrect for both reels, its likely someone switched the trip levers and maybe the bails too...not sure if someone owned both these reels...either way, you'll want to swap them so they are correct to each reel (if it matters to you)...

What do the two reels bail wires look like?

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I got the reels from 2 different sources. I just finished swapping the parts to the older 308 and I now believe it to be period correct now. Attached are 3 photos of the completed older 308.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:42 pm • #  
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Thanks...the bail is correct, though it would be correct for both serial numbers...I can't tell if the trip lever is correct, but if is not notched, then it is correct....two more pieces to verify...the line guide and line guide screw...

Line guide - these were a silver color on the FRONCE (049159) reels...and darker in color on the later reels (483287)...they are known to be Tungsten, but not sure if that applies to both colors, or? I don't know if it is a difference in manufacturing, suppliers, material, etc...

Line guide screw - The early reels (049159) had a Panhead screw the later reels (483287) had a beveled head screw...looks like the one on this reel is a beveled head...little hard to tell...

To me, it looks like the whole bail wire assembly was swapped from a later reel...looks like the only thing the (049159) needs to be all original is the line guide and line guide screw...let me know if you'd like photos of these items...nice reel...

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Thanks Sandman, you are correct I did not swap the line guide and screw over when I swapped bails. The line guide from newer 308 is slightly longer than the older 308. Also the screw head on newer 308 is almost a brass color and has a larger top where it is screwed in. The older line guide has less of a bevel to it because it is shorter and the older screw is silver in color. Not sure my descriptions will help you. I tried taking photos of them but the detail was not good enough.


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rubicon, sounds like you've got it figured out...I've not had a problem swapping out line guides and line guide screws when I needed to bring a reel to period correct parts...

Congrats on a great reel!

Sandman


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